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Lessons Earned Podcast

Season 2: Episode 1

Tony Carnevale

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How do we make sense of higher education and its relationship to the economy in the midst of a pandemic that changed the world overnight? Normally, when the economy is down, you go back to school, says Tony Carnevale, director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. But what’s your strategy if that’s not a great option right now? Carnevale explains why this economic crisis is different, who’s most at risk, and what it means for post-high school education and training.

About Tony Carnevale

Since 2008, Dr. Anthony P. “Tony” Carnevale has served as research Professor and Director of the Georgetown University Center on Education and the Workforce. An economist with deep experience in postsecondary education and its relationship to the economy, Carnevale has served as a senior staff member in both houses of the U.S. Congress and has been appointed to lend his expertise to several presidential administrations, serving on President George W. Bush’s White House Commission on Technology and Adult Education, President Clinton’s National Commission on Employment Policy, and President Reagan’s White House Commission on Productivity, where he chaired the human resources subcommittee.

Before his work at Georgetown, Carnevale served as Vice President for Public Leadership at the Educational Testing Service (ETS), and earlier in his career, he was Director of Human Resource and Employment Studies at the Committee for Economic Development (CED). Carnevale previously founded and served as President of the Institute for Workplace Learning (IWL) and also served as Director of Political and Government Affairs for the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), the largest union in the AFL- CIO.

Carnevale earned a BA from Colby College and a PhD in public finance economics from the Maxwell School at Syracuse University.

More of Tony’s Work: 

Report: The Overlooked Value of Associate’s Degrees https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/subba/

Report: Five Rules of the College and Career Game https://cew.georgetown.edu/cew-reports/5rules/

Video: Learning While Earning: The New Normal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TogJR5riyzU&t=84s

Season 2, Episode 1 Transcript: Download

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